Some CBD manufacturers have come under government scrutiny for wild, indefensible claims, such that CBD is a cure-all for cancer or COVID-19, which it is not. More research is needed but CBD may prove to be a helpful, relatively non-toxic option for managing certain conditions including anxiety, insomnia, seizure disorders and chronic pain.
Who should use CBD, how should you procure it and how much should you take?
Learn all about the risks, benefits and scientific evidence that supports the role of CBD in health.Join Kathleen and RDN Janice Bissex, a holistic cannabis practitioner, and Program Director of Cannabinoid Medical Sciences at John Patrick University School of Integrative & Functional Medicine. Janice is also an author of Simple Guide to CBD: Fact, Fiction, and a Path Forward
Without sufficient high-quality evidence in human studies, we can’t pinpoint effective doses, and because CBD currently is typically available as an unregulated supplement, it’s hard to know exactly what you are getting.
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Our goal is to give you simple and actionable strategies, so you can make. Health promoting decisions every day. Welcome to the true health revealed podcast. I am your host, registered dietician, nutritionist, Kathleen [00:00:40] Zalman. And today we are tackling a hot time. One that most of us don't fully understand CBD or cannabidiol it's used.
And there are signs everywhere from lotions and potions and pills and ice cream and everywhere you look, you see signs for it, [00:01:00] but is this really the answer to many of our problems? Many adults are turning to CBD for conditions from anxiety, pain, insomnia to GI. But is there evidence to support this phenomenon or is CBD just another passing fad?
Well, today I welcome an expert. Who's [00:01:20] going to sort it all out for us and give us the evidence from what we know about it too. Recommended dosing, registered dietician, nutritionist. Janice B6 is a holistic cannabis practitioner. She is the owner of Genesis wellness and program director of cannabinoid medical science.
[00:01:40] And a professor of cannabis therapy at John Patrick university school of integrative and functional medicine. Janice is also an author, including simple guide to CBD fact fiction and a path forward. So welcome Janice.
Janice: Kathleen, it's always a pleasure to talk
Kathleen: to you. Oh, thank you. Well, let's [00:02:00] start with the basics.
What is CBD and how is it different from recreational, Marilyn?
Janice: Okay, so CBD is one of the cannabinoids in the cannabis plant or the hemp plant. There are over a hundred people might be more familiar with THC. That's the cannabinoid that can make you [00:02:20] stoned or high. Not that there's anything really wrong with THC.
It's sort of like if you have a glass of red wine, that's fine. If you have. A little bit of THC. That's fine. It's only when you overconsume that it becomes a problem. So CBD one of the, one of the cannabinoids and it has been found to have [00:02:40] some health benefits. It is neuro-protective our U S government has a patent on CBD and cannabinoids as neuroprotectants and antioxidants that patent in 2003, some NIH scientists were looking for.
Could be the [00:03:00] best thing to treat things like Alzheimer's Huntington's Parkinson's and they found the cannabinoids showed the most promise. So they applied for and received a patent. So it does have. Proven health benefits. Is it going to cure every condition for every person? Absolutely not, but [00:03:20] it can help a lot of people with anxiety.
It can decrease pain signaling. It can be neuroprotective it's it can be very helpful after a concussion, a TBI or a stroke as a neuroprotectant. So a lot of good things, not a cure, all, but. It's a good thing [00:03:40] for the most part.
Kathleen: Yay. Well, before we leave the marijuana issue, because I think that's where there's a lot of confusion.
So you said that, you know, CBD is like taking, you know, or marijuana, the THC in marijuana. Is like, if you have a little of it, it's like drinking a glass of wine, but we [00:04:00] have dietary guidelines that say, ladies, you should, you should only have one drink per day. Guys, you can have too. Are there any kind of guidelines like that, that, um, advise people on recreational marijuana where it's legal?
Um, is there, you know, like how does one know that equivalent dosing to say a glass. [00:04:20]
Janice: No. The short answer is no, we did not have guidelines. And the thing is that it varies so greatly between people. So I might take two and a half milligrams of THC and feel a little bit impatient. Whereas somebody else can take 25 milligrams and not be impaired at all.[00:04:40]
Depends on if you're a long-term user versus a new user. It depends on so many factors. So it's, it's really hard to say this is a safe.
Kathleen: Yeah. So we're not really talking about recreational marijuana, say we're, we're talking CBD. So is CBD. What is the legal status [00:05:00] across the country? And is it psychoactive?
Does it have some of those same properties? Because some people use the recreational marijuana for anxiety and for pain and for sleep. So how talk about the legality and the psychoactive differences?
Janice: Okay. So in 2018, Made the [00:05:20] production, the growing and production of hemp legal. So that really opened the door for more CBD products because CBD is found in hemp.
I would say that. Legal nationwide, but there are a couple of states where there's a little bit of a gray area. I believe it's Idaho and South Dakota, and that may have [00:05:40] changed, but it's essentially legal. Uh, CBD is now when we talk about CBD, CBD is one cannabinoid and then you have CBD products that contain CBD and.
Components of the plant. Some [00:06:00] of them do, you can buy a CBD product that just has CBD. I don't recommend that. It's like you and I are dieticians. We tell people, you know, eat broccoli. We don't say to them, take a vitamin a supplement because broccoli has beta carotene and provides vitamin a, we say, eat the [00:06:20] whole vegetable.
It's much like that with cannabis and hemp. We want all the other components in the plant because there are. Other cannabinoids in the plant that also have health benefits there, CBG CBN that there are, as I said, over a hundred of them, but there are also turpines in the [00:06:40] plant and the turpines are what?
Give the plant its smell. It's a Roma. Lavender. If you smell lavender, it's kind of combing, right? That's because of the terpene linalool. Well, cannabis has linalool in there too. So that's why for some people, it is very calming. Now, THC is dose [00:07:00] dependent. A little bit can help with anxiety, but too much can cause.
Interesting. And when you talk about psychoactivity, it's incorrect to say that CBD is not psychoactive CBD is not intoxicating, but it does have an effect on our brains. So it [00:07:20] alters our brain. It's calming, it increases our serotonin levels. It can help to increase Gabba, which is an inhibitory neurotransmitter to promote calmness.
So it does have activity in our brain. It's just not intoxicating.
Kathleen: And so when you talk about the whole plant, that [00:07:40] whole plant then also includes the THC. Yes. Yeah. So, but it's dose.
Janice: Yes. And if you buy a CBD product, it can legally not have more than 0.3% THC, which is a tiny amount of THC. It is not enough to [00:08:00] impair you in any
Kathleen: way, but it
Janice: adds to that, that entourage effect or ensemble effect that we talk about with the plant, that the synergy between all the cannabinoids and the terpenes and the flavonoids are what create the most powerful message.
Well,
Kathleen: that begs the question then what of the dose, because [00:08:20] you just mentioned 0.03 of THC. Um, how is that regulated? I mean, is there, there government oversight to make sure that you're not getting a product with more than that? And how about the other cannabinoids? Um, are they regular?
Janice: Honestly, no, there is very little [00:08:40] regulation around CBD products.
Uh, cannabinoids, I mean, there is, it is pretty strict. If you have a product that has more than 0.3% THC, that that just doesn't fly and any good manufacturer will do testing on their product and also send it out for [00:09:00] independent lab testing to make sure that there is not more than that little trace amount of TA.
Kathleen: So there's an awful lot of trust that one has to put in your, who you purchase from. And I've seen tinctures and capsules and gels and gummies and lotions and salves and foods and ice cream. It's like, [00:09:20] um, what help us navigate. Where we should go with this. So shall the Papa gummy, if you have, um, anxiety and is there a certain amount that you recommend?
So how do we know that we're taking the right product and the dose? [00:09:40]
Janice: Well, the first thing you mentioned is trust. So I would suggest that you not buy your CBD. At the gas station or bed,
Kathleen: why not? You
Janice: need to purchase it from, from someone that you trust that hopefully can give you guidance. And you need to ask for a certificate of analysis, [00:10:00] a seal.
That will tell you if it says there are 25 milligrams of CBD on the label, you need a COA to prove that that is what is in the product. So that's that's number one. I prefer organically grown hemp or cannabis just because these plants are bioaccumulative plants. So they do. [00:10:20] Draw toxins out of the soil.
So I looked for organically grown in the type that you take really depends on the individual. If I have someone, I have clients that are on blood thinners, for example, Coumadin and warfarin. If you take an. At the same time that you take your Coumadin, [00:10:40] there is a chance that there will be an interaction in your level of Coumadin and your blood might increase or decrease because they both processed by the same enzyme in the liver.
So for someone like that, I might recommend a tincture because that would be more appropriate for them.
Kathleen: [00:11:00] And a tincture is something you put onto your.
Janice: Yes. You either put it on your tongue or I have a water-soluble tincture that people love. You put four or five or 10 drops in a little bit of water and drink it.
And because of the size of the CBD molecules, it's absorbed right away. And so people find pretty quickly. [00:11:20] Using that tincture, but yeah, or a sublingual tincture that takes about 15 minutes to see an effect. So a lot of people who have anxiety, I might say, you know what, let's just try a, a sublingual just to under the tongue of peppermint tincture twice a day.
And we start with, you know, a quarter of a dropper or a half a dropper, and then we increase [00:11:40] until they find the relief that they're looking for. And it's not a quick fix. It's not, you're not going to do it, you know, at noon today and suddenly say, You know, I have no anxiety. I mean, some people find pretty quick relief for, for pain, muscle spasms and things like that, but it really takes a little bit of time because [00:12:00] what it's doing is it's working with our own endocannabinoid system, which Kathleen, I don't think you learned about that.
And you're
Kathleen: not a familiar term.
Janice: This is the largest neurotransmitter system in our bodies. And the goal of this system is. Homeostasis or balance. [00:12:20] And we have receptors, which, you know, this, this was also mind blowing to me because honestly I used to use air quotes when I said medical marijuana, because I didn't, I didn't understand that it could be used medically.
So we have this endocannabinoid system receptors from head to toe to accept these [00:12:40] cannabinoids in the plant. But you say, why would we have a system. For a plant that, you know, not many people use. Well, it come, come to find out. We make cannabinoids in our own bodies. We make at least two, the two are very well studied and one of them is called and this is called the bliss molecule.[00:13:00]
So if you're a person that makes a lot of anonymous, Your risk of anxiety and depression is much lower. There are some people who don't make enough and not just like, if you don't make enough fibroid hormone, you take thyroid medicine, right? Yeah, exactly. You don't make enough anonymize. If you take CBD, it [00:13:20] allows your body to retain more of that.
giving you that feel that feeling of wellbeing.
Kathleen: Interesting. And I think of some people that are just born with the happy gene, because that's what we're talking about, but let's go back to that certificate of analysis. So I'm at the ice cream store and they're [00:13:40] selling ice cream with CBD in it. I mean, the last thing I'm going to do is ask for a certificate of analysis.
Yeah, it sounds to me like if you're serious about using CBD, you need to use it with a practitioner who can help you. Like you're talking about your, your clients and how you help them navigate. And you've [00:14:00] done the certificate of analysis, knowing where to purchase. The right kind of products, because I think there are a lot of bogus products out there that might have little to none.
And then you're saying there's really no regulatory oversight. So it's a buyer beware situation for sure.
Janice: A hundred percent. And you know, the FDA [00:14:20] did do a study and bought a variety of CBD products that are available online. 70% were mislabeled Catholic had zero CBD. That's why
Kathleen: you have to be careful.
And it sounds to me like you really do need to work with a practitioner. I have [00:14:40] seen personally, a friend of mine, her daughter has had a seizure disorder all her life and was never able to drive. And because of the occurrence of seizures, while she's taking CBD, she's going through Emory university.
There they're securing the product. You know, obviously [00:15:00] making sure that that. The right dosing. So she's working with the doctor, but she's driving. So the first time in her life CBD has, has opened this door for her. That's incredible. So, you know, that's, to me the most promising story, but I don't know, you know, you probably could share many more, but it's so exciting to [00:15:20] think that this product can really have life changing properties.
Please share the fi you're the story about your dad? Because I think that's so endearing and how you got into this business and, and learned, and you're clearly an expert, but what, what brought you there [00:15:40] was an actual, um, condition.
Janice: Yes. Yes, my dad, uh, just about five and a half years ago, I had some very severe pain.
And they gave him all the traditional pain medications, because that's what doctors do. He hated these medications because they made him groggy. He was a very active guy like hiking. He was, he, [00:16:00] he just hated how it made him feel. So these medications made him so constipated that it required a three-day hospital stay.
Now I don't need to go into detail. So that was very, very. Uncomfortable. So at the end of this hospital stay, I said to his doctor, isn't there [00:16:20] anything we can do for his pain? And I just threw out what about medical marijuana? Because it had just been made legal in Massachusetts. And now mine too.
Kathleen, I'm going to say three quarters of doctors would've said to me. Oh no, no. That's not a good idea. The doctor looked at me and said, I think that's a great idea. So I [00:16:40] thought, oh great. Now I need to learn about this. I know nothing about this. I'm not even sure it really works. So I did some research and the more I read.
The more, I thought, are you kidding me? Why are we not suggesting this to people who have pain and a variety of other conditions? So got my dad certified, took him to the [00:17:00] dispensary. He was in a lot of pain. We came home, we bought a vape pen and tried to figure, you know how to put it together. I'm just, I'm a newbie.
I don't know anything about this stuff. Got it together. He took two puffs and he said, I'm going to go take a nap. And he stood up and he said, wow. And I said, are you okay? Are you dizzy? What's he said, I'm not in pain. So immediately, [00:17:20] immediately, immediately he saw the effect. So on that day I left my business of 15 years and I went back to school to become a holistic cannabis practitioner.
Now this is, this is all I do. And it is by far. The most rewarding work I've ever
Kathleen: done. And that's so exciting, but now your dad took [00:17:40] marijuana. Um, so
Janice: it was a high CBD high CBD vape pen. So it did have some THC and other cannabinoids in there. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, we, we start with CBD and we see if we can find relief, but there are some clients.
I have a, a young man with, um, Crohn's disease [00:18:00] and he was seeing good results. With the CBD, but he takes a weekly methotrexate injection and he was so nauseous on this day. So I said, why don't you get a vape pen with some, some cannabis in it and see if that can help with the, with the, uh, [00:18:20] nausea. And it's, it's been, it's been life changing.
Kathleen: So, what are some other conditions that you're seeing are, are having the most benefit from.
Janice: I would say autism. There's a lot of research on autism, especially in Israel. [00:18:40] They've done a lot of studies looking at, um, CBD for autism. And it really, for many, many of these, these kids and adults, it really helps with behavioral issues with all sorts of symptoms of autism.
So that's one anxiety is probably. I want to say probably the [00:19:00] biggest success of my clients. And it's not easy. Some of the changes are relatively subtle. It brings your body into a little homeostasis. People feel better. They say it takes the edge off. I have one boy, who's a teenager. And he said to his mom, I feel less [00:19:20] jumpy when I take my medicine.
You know, these, these. Some are some are life changing. I have a woman with a she's in her seventies with post-polio syndrome had been on Percocet for 15 years, Percocet several times a day because of the excruciating pain. She no longer needs [00:19:40] Percocet, Kevin. Water-soluble CBD. And she says, I mean, you know, people say to me, it's a miracle.
I never used that word. It is life-changing for many people. It does not work for everybody. It is. Um, it's it can do so much for so [00:20:00] many that it's just, it's exciting. Exciting. There are very exciting other conditions. We talked about pain, a lot of research on. Uh, the IOM came out and said, you know, cannabis, highly effective, um, a lot of research strong.
They use the terms, you know, there's water, moderate, [00:20:20] uh, research strong. They said there was a strong indication that, that, uh, cannabis is good
Kathleen: for pain. Do you see it as something that physicians, medical doctors will be prescribing? Do you see a future of where this will be something your doctor gives you a prescription?
Janice: That would be great. [00:20:40] Most doctors know nothing about this medicine, much like I didn't. So we need to start educating our doctors in medical school even today. Only 15 or 20% of med schools teach about medical cannabis, which is mind blowing to me. The [00:21:00] research is there. We have decades and decades of research on this plant, but you know, it's still federally illegal.
Yeah, so that I think is the, is the hesitation for some of these schools that might get some federal funding, they feel like it could be a
Kathleen: problem. So CBD is not legal. You mean [00:21:20] cannabis, cannabis? Yeah. I read a study, you know, it was looking at, you know, childhood epilepsy syndrome, similar to what my story was about and that there's a drug called epidemic.
Switch contain CBD. And it's the first cannabis derived medicine that was approved by the [00:21:40] FDA for these conditions. So maybe it's the beginning of, um, a trend. I hope
Janice: so. I actually, but the problem now, Kathleen, is that the pharmaceutical companies want to make this into a pill plant is where the power is.
We want products that [00:22:00] contain all of the different components. If you just put up. One of the, like at the THC Marinol, for example, the THC molecule or just the CBD molecule, you're missing that wonderful synergy of the other components of the plant. So I say, you know, whole plant medicine, [00:22:20]
Kathleen: I get it. How about, can you
cook
Kathleen: with it?
Janice: You can, you can. I mean, I've made smoothies, I've done certain things, but to me, it's, I dunno, it's just easier to take a tincture or two.
Kathleen: Well, then you're sure you're getting the dose. So let's talk about dosing. Um, so if I, I find a [00:22:40] distributor and I know they have that certificate of analysis and it's organic.
Um, and I just want to try, I just want to dip my toe in the water to see if it will help me with pain or anxiety. How do I start? How do I start and how do I advance?
Janice: Well, we recommend start [00:23:00] low. Okay. So for my clients, I mean, I have this water-soluble tincture. Most of my clients use about 12 drops to find relief, but I always start people in three or four drops because if they can find relief for three or four drops, no, you don't want to waste, you know, in a waste of your medicine.
Right? Sure. We start there and I say, do that for a few [00:23:20] days. See how you feel. And then we increased by two drops and we say, okay, now we're going to go to six drops. And then after a few days, we're going to go to eight. And until they find relief, we sorta keep inching up slowly,
Kathleen: but it's probably important to take it daily to establish a blood level, or
Janice: yes, [00:23:40] it is.
I mean, there, there are some people who, if they have severe pain, that's episodic, you could use it just when you have the severe pain, but it is better to take a small dose.
Kathleen: But now if I'm buying some lotion, um, at my favorite, uh, store that [00:24:00] says contains CBD, what, what could that possibly do? Well,
Janice: well, if you're buying a lotion that says contained CBD, it's probably not in enough quantity that you're going to see much of an effect.
I mean, I, I have a medicinal sob that has a thousand milligrams in it in one night. I mean, that's something that [00:24:20] you put on your joint pain. You put on your temples. If you have a migraine you use for hives, for eczema, psoriasis, that you will see an effect, but a cream that has a little bit of CBD. I mean, you can, you can use that.
Maybe you'll see a little relief, but you really need to get a product that has enough [00:24:40] CBD in there that you'll see
Kathleen: CVS. Right. You know, kind of reminds me of back in the day when, um, herbal medicine was being promoted and you, you would find potato chips with, uh, you know, ingredients, but yet if you looked at what the ingredients were, that was such a small amount, it couldn't possibly have had [00:25:00] any benefit.
So again, it's buyer beware, hemp seeds, um, you know, people use them in cooking it. Um, is there, are there. Benefits to eating the seed because that's whole plant or is it just, do you have to eat a lot of them in order to get the, um, prescribed benefit? [00:25:20]
Janice: They're hemp seeds are healthy, but they don't contain seeds.
Oh,
Kathleen: they don't know.
Janice: They have good polyunsaturated fats. I mean, they're great whole plant product, but you're not going to get CBD
Kathleen: in Hampton and they are the highest protein seed by the way. Yeah. So [00:25:40] people do use them and sprinkle them on stuff. So good. No, nothing to worry about. Sure. So, um, how about the cost?
I mean, how much, uh, Give people an idea of what the, um, the costs are to start doing it and doing it right. I mean, we're not talking about the, the, um, the drug store or the [00:26:00] convenience store products, but the products that you're talking about thousand milligrams in SAF or tincture,
Janice: Yeah, the tinctures. I mean, I personally have products and I absolutely, the last thing I wanted to do was to sell products.
But when I started this and the FDA found that there was so much junk out there, I [00:26:20] said, I need to find a product that I can recommend. Of course the one I found that met all the care, you know, all the, okay, it's organically grown, blah, blah, blah. I said, okay, I want to recommend your product. And I said, oh, we only sell wholesale.
So I, I decided I had to do that. So the prices are between 50 and $130.
Kathleen: And so [00:26:40] that that's for, um, what would that cover like tincture for a month or is that, you know, put it in perspective?
Janice: Uh, 76, my tincture in it's it lasts a month. Okay. Two months, depending on how much you're using gels, that people, that's what [00:27:00] I take.
I just take a 25 milligrams soft, gel every day, because I never could remember to take the tincture and all of that. So it's just easy to
Kathleen: do that. So why do you take a Janis?
Janice: I take it for just general wellness. Hmm. I do. I just, I know what it does to the body. I mean, there it's, it's, it's a potent, [00:27:20] anti-inflammatory both CBD and.
And we know that inflammation is a contributing factor to most of our chronic diseases. So I think, well, anything I can do to just decrease inflammation and maybe take the edge off any anxiety that I might have. So that's why I take it. And then if I, if I hurt myself, if I played [00:27:40] pickleball and I hurt my knees, then I take the water-soluble tincture
Kathleen: and I'll just do it on your aching or you got
Janice: also, I always
Kathleen: do.
Janice: I always put. The salver roll on, on my knees
Kathleen: too. So it's kind of like your multivitamin, you sort of take one a day that kind of cover those gaps.
Janice: [00:28:00] Exactly. And I take it with my ma multi in the morning. That's that's just what my vitamin D my multivitamin and my CBS.
Kathleen: Wow. That's that's interesting. So do you, do you, as a practitioner, feel confident that the, the evidence is there to substantiate these recommendations and that it will, we will [00:28:20] continue to see a body of evidence proving the benefits that it doesn't do everything like I've seen.
It's a cure all for cancer COVID and you know, clearly not going there, but for that, which it has, has started to show promise. Do you think there'll be more research and, and how do you feel about what lies ahead? Oh,
Janice: [00:28:40] absolutely. And there's, there's a lot more research going on right now. You know, we've, we've been a little bit behind the eight ball for, you know, cannabis and CBD research, just because of, you know, some of the legal issues around cannabis.
I mean, I, my website. So I'm, you know, I'm a dietician. I help people and I sell some CBD. I was [00:29:00] shut down by three credit card companies Catholic because I sold CBD. I don't even have THC in my products. I am adding one. That will be a full spectrum. That means it has a little bit of THC, but because of the association with cannabis, I was shut down.
So I couldn't take credit cards for four years. All my. [00:29:20] So there was still a huge stigma around this plant, but the more research that we can do, and again, that's ongoing, other countries are doing amazing research, but we're doing some good research in this country. Also in the more research we do, the more evidence we have, because I know we all want evidence-based I, that [00:29:40] that's what I'm looking for, but, but I've got, I mean, I have probably 300 research articles on my website.
So if people say, you know, I really want to see the evidence go to Janice wellness.com.
Kathleen: I'll include your link, um, on the show notes. So people can go there and, and get more information if they want. [00:30:00] I think also Janice, it's not it's about the misunderstanding that it's not well understood and it's associated with medic pot, marijuana, and therefore it doesn't have that positive, glowing.
If it weren't in the same plant, it might've been easier [00:30:20] and less fraught with some of the questions, but clearly manufacturers. Uh, putting it in everything, trying to make money and hop on the fad, but that's where it's really a fad. But there, the good to know that there are, um, governing bodies that like you're educating you.[00:30:40]
Better understand its usefulness. You now have years of experience with clients seeing, you know, the actual, um, benefits that people get and that, you know, there are places where you can go and you can trust that this new tech, this new CBD is here to stay and, uh, [00:31:00] has a growing body of evidence where it might be helpful for you and your.
It's, uh, it's a good thing. I'm excited. I'm excited about it, you know, to, to understand that CBD and THC they're cousins, but they're vastly different in terms of what they do. And you know, there are there [00:31:20] risks to taking CB.
Janice: Interesting. When you mentioned THC and CBD are cousins and they, they each do different things, but I will tell you that a lot of the benefits overlap THC is a potent anti-inflammatory.
THC helps with pain. So THC really does have a lot of medical value, and I would [00:31:40] love to decrease the stigma around the cannabis plant. Because it has a lot to offer as well. CBD is wonderful. Has a lot of great health benefits, especially if you have, when I, when I talked about the different cannabinoids in the synergy, a broad spectrum CBD product has all the [00:32:00] cannabinoids and the turpines and the flat.
Minus the THC, a full spectrum product has all the cannabinoids and terpenes and flavonoids, including a tiny bit of THC.
Kathleen: And that's the 0.03 regulations.
Janice: Exactly. It's zero points.
Kathleen: So you're not gonna [00:32:20] get high and you don't have to worry about driving if you take it. So that's, that's the big difference because with THC, you can't, you shouldn't get behind the.
You know what I mean? It's like you said, you equated it to drinking wine or drinking alcohol, which, you know, you shouldn't be driving and drinking. Right. So, um, that's a good distinction, right? And
Janice: third [00:32:40] product that I just want to make sure that is the isolate, the CBD isolate. I don't recommend that that's a cheap product.
You can get a $30 bottle of CBD. That's a CBD isolate, but again, it's lacking that, that synergy with the other compounds in the plant. Well, before
Kathleen: I let you go, I'd love for you [00:33:00] to talk a little bit more about, you mentioned migraines and the SAF. I mean, I know so many people that struggle with migraines, how can CBD offers some relief?
It's
Janice: interesting because I read a research study showing that a topical CBD helped, I don't know, 65% of people in a research study, [00:33:20] just topically. And I thought there is no way that's not going to help. So I have a. Who has migraine. So I said to her, listen, Tracy, I, I, this is what I read. I can't, I don't, I don't know if it will work.
She got the salve, she uses it. She says it is. [00:33:40] Amazing. Wow. A friend of mine saw her walking she's local and said, I should be in bed, curled up with a migraine. She gets a couple of migraines a month around her, her cycle. And she said I should be in bed. And instead I'm out taking a walk. Wow. So again, it may not work for another person with migraines, but it [00:34:00] works for.
Kathleen: And what are the unintended consequences of using it? I mean, what harm will you, or what risks are you in trying this? If you suffer from migraine.
Janice: Well, certainly using it topically, there, there is no risk. It's really not going into your bloodstream. It's just a sort of a local, um, and honestly, [00:34:20] first of all, no one's ever died of a cannabis overdose.
That's one thing. And second CBD. I mean, if you take too much of an animal, you might think you're going to die. I've heard stories. Uh, but nobody has, because there are no receptors in our respiratory and. So you, you can't die from a cannabis or you
Kathleen: [00:34:40] can overdose and not feel. Exactly. Yeah. So yes, you need to follow the dosing that's recommended.
And it sounds to me like if you want to try CBD, make sure you get it from a reputable source, right. Um, go low and slow. I love that advice. And talk to your doctor because you need to make sure that you don't have any other [00:35:00] medications. Potentially could, um, cause any reaction or maybe it's the, you change from one type of, um, product to another in order to avoid that interaction.
But, um, I think it's here to stay and if it's used responsibly, it sounds like it could [00:35:20] really be beneficial to many people with, um, pain or insomnia or anxiety. Um, You, we mentioned, um, seizures or epilepsy. Um, any other conditions that we didn't, we didn't talk about that might find benefit and there's evidence for well,
Janice: [00:35:40] GI conditions, a lot of people who have inflammatory bowel disease, IBS, or finding.
Using CBD and cannabis. So that's a really, to me that's a really exciting, um, really area of research. I'll be talking about that at the today's dietician symposium coming up. [00:36:00] So I'm
Kathleen: excited about, I will see you there. I'm speaking as well. And my topic is food as med. So we're on the same path, but you know, these are things from the earth.
So Genesis has been fabulous. You've enlightened me and our listeners. And thank you for your knowledge and your, um, what you're [00:36:20] doing to advocate for this, because it seems like it's an important, uh, tool in the toolbox. Like you said, doesn't work for everyone, but yet there are a lot of people who can use something that feels natural.
You know, I mean, it's from the ground. It's from the. That can really be beneficial. So thank you so much for joining me.
Janice: Great to be with you. [00:36:40] Thank you for listening to the true health revealed podcast. We appreciate your time and hope you'll join us again for more information on today's episode and to subscribe to future pod.
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